I appreciate that, but you may not be in the majority.
Not a certain amount, but a massive amount. So many dreamers and talkers plus SSC's kit-car and fascination of beating Bugatti in a straight line. But Panoz, a family that could have just sat back on its family wealth had a passion and didn't just talk....but did. Briggs Cunningham, Fritz Maytag, Danny Panoz. Mad respect and admiration for these guys.
The issue, as I see it and is borne out by the posts below your's and above my response, is that many on here are upset that someone you know did something silly and unprofessional that was called out by someone that you don't know. People refuse to accept that 16 repeated posts out of 26 at the only place with people who actively care about Panoz congregate - and is pretty dead anyway is silly, spamming, unnecessary, unproductive, and unprofessional.
Just how many new members have signed up recently? At least at WCF, there has finally been a story about the resurrection of Panoz where I posted a response linking here. Screaming at the converted, especially when the factory itself hasn't been too warm and cuddly isn't going to help things. This is what I mean by posting facts.
Ummm, EVERYTHING posted at car forums is ephemeral and drivel. These places are a diversion from real life - entertainment. Sure, there is some information gathering and sharing, but anyone who lives vicariously through a car forum....especially one so dead as this one, well....I need not continue pointing out the obvious.
Nor do I need point out how inaccurate your accusations are that I called anyone "stupid" or an "idiot". I did call John unprofessional, and I fully stand by that, because he was unprofessional. You won't see any forum for luxury goods accept someone with 26 posts and 16 being the exact same thing as being professional. Personally a good guy - yeah maybe, but this is business.
I speak plainly sir - online and in real life. Beware the loveless critic and the uncritical lover.
As for your thorough and exhaustive research of me, let me correct your facts - I was denied "fastvair" because I frequent a Corvair board where the owner of fastvair was banned from and I continue to speak of it highly. He's bitter. I was banned from "csportcoupe" for criticizing the owner for opening the board up to any troll kid or spammer and cheapening his product. The site imploded shortly thereafter and the owner still maintains his temper tantrum refusing to release the information posted there no matter how much money has been offered.
So yes, facts are very important to me but apparently not so much to others.
I don't know John, but all I know is what I've seen here. He has not acted HERE professionally. His actions have not been worthy of respect and this incidence is not worthy of respect no matter what he has done in the past not may do in the future. Not appreciating spamming makes me have "I’m-the-smartest-guy-here attitude"? No, I just cannot see any veracity in your charge whereas my observation of 16/26 being spam has more than a grain of truth.
Again, I think that you will find yourself in the minority
Look, most humans hate to face the Truth. Its painful and it may take the realization that one need change. I'm a forthright person and I make no apologies for that, I have no shame in my online history, nor feel in need to become inauthentic just to make others feel more comfortable.
You have given me a thoughtful reply and I have responded in kind out of respect for you. I hope that I have corrected some misconceptions that you hold as it is clear that you are far more thoughtful and actually seem to care about the vitality of this place and the Panoz marque than others here.
Plus, on a positive note, based on some of your previous posts in this forum, it appears you possess a certain amount of respect for what the Panoz family and the extended family employed at Panoz, the company, have achieved.
However, I would like to comment on the manner in which you have recently participated in the forum. Since you are a history teacher, I’m fairly certain you are familiar with the common saying “History repeats itself”. The information gleaned from an internet search for “ishigakisensei” certainly seems to support that theory.
Just how many new members have signed up recently? At least at WCF, there has finally been a story about the resurrection of Panoz where I posted a response linking here. Screaming at the converted, especially when the factory itself hasn't been too warm and cuddly isn't going to help things. This is what I mean by posting facts.
Apparently, you have graced multiple automotive forums with your presence. In doing so, you have been eagerly willing to share many of your the-world-according-to-ishigakisensei thoughts from your seemingly endless bounty of drivel.
Nor do I need point out how inaccurate your accusations are that I called anyone "stupid" or an "idiot". I did call John unprofessional, and I fully stand by that, because he was unprofessional. You won't see any forum for luxury goods accept someone with 26 posts and 16 being the exact same thing as being professional. Personally a good guy - yeah maybe, but this is business.
As I stated in a previous post, it’s not what you say so much as how you say it.
As for your thorough and exhaustive research of me, let me correct your facts - I was denied "fastvair" because I frequent a Corvair board where the owner of fastvair was banned from and I continue to speak of it highly. He's bitter. I was banned from "csportcoupe" for criticizing the owner for opening the board up to any troll kid or spammer and cheapening his product. The site imploded shortly thereafter and the owner still maintains his temper tantrum refusing to release the information posted there no matter how much money has been offered.
So yes, facts are very important to me but apparently not so much to others.
Your lack of respect for others, your I’m-the-smartest-guy-here attitude and your faux “facts” stated with a self-anointed importance diminishes, if not totally eliminates, any respect for you and your comments.
I am not attempting to drive you from the forum.
Now, are you going to let history repeat itself and lash back with another avalanche of snide comments? Or … I guess we’ll see what happens.
You have given me a thoughtful reply and I have responded in kind out of respect for you. I hope that I have corrected some misconceptions that you hold as it is clear that you are far more thoughtful and actually seem to care about the vitality of this place and the Panoz marque than others here.
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